There are a lot of reasons i think we should stick with the IYBC idea.

1. Doing *just* a regular chillout camp is unoriginal. Lots of people have a lounge type area with music but its that extra something that makes it special and attracts people to it. If its just some other chill camp it doesn't stand out nor does it inspire creativity from those of us that DO want to do something more.

2. Doing IYBC again doesn't stop the chill/lounge idea plus gives those of us that were having a blast doing the creek activities the opportunity to do it. So its more of a win win situation for everyone involved. I know those of us that participated in the Warrior Sperm Joust had a blast doing it! It was probably the funnest thing i ever did at flipside. Having the womb still gave those of us that wanted to make a chill lounge spot gave us that opportunity as well. In fact i would say the Birthday idea attracted lots of people.

3. We friggin got sarinated for God's sake last year! When has that ever happened to us? That was awesome :)

4. I like attracting boisterous people and not all of us are the quiet types...especially at flipside. I thought we attracted a good group of diverse freaks that flipside theme camps are all about attracting.

5. A lot of people wanted to do it again this year.

6. Giving it the birthday theme gives us something conceptual to work with. It inspires creativity rather then just an ubiquitous entity to work around.

7. The Slip n Snatch will be so much better this year now that i know what to expect. SO many people wanted to be born again and its not something i want to give up on. It just needs some tweaking and a revamp that I'm positive will get unforgettable results from. I cant let the community down on this one especially.

8. The birthday theme and having creek activities is what gave us that prime camp placement last year. Considering how hot it was last year and how hot it will probably be this year, being by the creek was choice. Id like to get the same spot again. That was also another reason it attracted people because of the traffic right by our camp.

9. Theme camps dont have to have regulated rules and proper labels. I dont think that just the label proposition is strong enough against the other reasons that support doing something more fun and cognitive like IYBC.

10. As for what we do best...We're all different kinds of people and the camp has been growing a lot since it started. I think we're all good at a lot of different things but I got tons of reactions from IYBC idea, the vagina slide and the sperm joust to know that it was something very memorable for other people in the community.I got more reactions from this idea then ANY other theme camp we've ever done together. Chill camps are a dime a dozen at burner events. I would rather our camp stand out in such a way that people remember it for its originality and thought rather then just another spot to pass out and get your balls painted. As much as people enjoyed the chill area, tons of people also enjoyed the creek activities too! We had EVERYONE's attention during the sperm jousts and the few births that we did give to people.

11. During the day most of us will probably be at the creek. Because of this, doing creek activities (where everyone else is as well) can attract attention to our camp and provides us with something to do during the day. It freed us at night from responsibilities rather then having to have something going all night because we're a music/lounge camp and thats what we're supposed to do kinda thing.

12. the amount of "Happy Birthday!!!" we got from people passing by.

I thought that the collaboration between the creek activities and womb were great last year. The placement, original idea, and name attracted a lot of people and the work on the space from shade structure, sperm pillows, birthday party deco, sound, mixing, food ect were all stellar. Everyone did their part. I think that a "womb" is probably the most chill space ever. Seriously is anything more comfortable and home then a womb? It also gives us something cognitive to work with when getting deco ideas. So does the birthday party theme. I noticed how it resonated with lots of people wanting a place to feel like it was their birthday and we did that. Bill if you prefer to focus your efforts on making the chill space then go for it, but i dont see why we should ditch such a great idea that made so many people happy just for the reason of fitting a label. IMHO labels dont attract people, original fun ideas do. We all got to do what we wanted, felt comfortable with and was good at. Why change something that works? Those of us that want to setup shade structure, work on chill deco, spin music and cook can do that. Those of us that want to create vagina slides, shenanigans at the creek, games, competitions and interact with people can do that. I dont see why it all cant coexist. I thought the reactions we got last year were priceless. We really made our mark on the community. Everyone knew who our camp was. Id like to continue the tradition. I thought it rocked.